9. We Sell Reality

In the ninth episode of the podcast What's That Doing Here, Esther Didden and co-host Birte ten Hoopen spoke with visual artist and human rights activist Elke Uitentuis and co-director of Framer Framed Cas Bool.

Our thesis to this podcast:

Nor do we know enough about Europe's failing immigration policy in the arts (though we may think we do)

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